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January != April

The front page says January 27, 2010 instead of April 27, 2010 under "Current Events" for the new patch. - Furrykef 00:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. :) Fixed. ~G-Mang (T|C) 02:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Archival

Any chance of archiving this page? It makes my browser lag something awful. Shine 02:16, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. Seb 12:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Class Images

Anyone else notice the increased brightness and decreased saturation on the PNG versions of the class images? Example: Scout JPEG, Same image reuploaded as PNG. Is that just me? ~G-Mang (T|C) 08:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. You are correct. Clearly Aurora didn't know how to 'Save for Web'. Also the grey square that was there is the bag and has been removed. If you'd be willing to remake them, so their saturation is correct it'd brilliant. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 08:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Taunt Naming

I understand that he literally pulls out a grenade and uses it, but I feel like a different name for the taunt would be better to avoid confusion with actual grenades. Something like "kamikaze" would be clearer. ~G-Mang (T|C) 22:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I've been considering for ages. Something Sun-Tzu would like. Make sure to fix all links. Special:WhatLinksHere/Grenade_(Taunt). -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 22:56, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I haven't really got any good ideas for names atm. If anyone has any feel free to share. While we're at it, do you think we could consider a rename for Arrow as well? That one is not as confusing but still kinda lame. ~G-Mang (T|C) 23:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I like Arrow'd, which more aptly describes it IMO --Piemanmoo 01:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I dunno about past tense. The one I'm liking atm is "Skewer," cause it matches, in a convoluted way, the stereotypically Australian [shrimp] barbecue. ~G-Mang (T|C) 02:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Grenade (Taunt), Arrow, and Bonk (Taunt) are all looking pretty lame in my book, so I've moved the discussion here. We should go with names that are A) unique, IE unlikely to be confused with another game mechanic/term; B) clear, meaning that they should refer to the specific taunt with minimal necessary clarification; and C) preferably likable/funny/referential. ATM the ones that come to mind are Kamikaze, Skewer, and Home Run, respectively, though I'm sure other people have better ideas. Any suggestions? ~G-Mang (T|C) 03:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, if they aren't official names, wouldn't that get confusing? -- En Ex 03:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, there are no official names; they're always just described in the achievements, not named ("Bat an enemy 25 meters", "Use a grenade to gib a player", and "Stab an enemy with an arrow", respectively). AFAIK, the ones we use aren't official (Spinal Tap certainly isn't). In console, they're all reported as "class_taunt". We just go with whatever consensus deems best. ~G-Mang (T|C) 04:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I like Skewer and Home run, or maybe Outta the park. But I'm not a fan of Kamikaze. And no Pieman, we've had this before. Arrow'd is crap hence it's been reverted MANY times. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 12:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Kamikaze fits well, as does home run. But "skewer" doesn't fit because you can skewer things without an arrow. Arrow'd is a great name because it takes the noun and simply makes it a verb. The sniper has literaly "arrowed" someone to death. Plus the way it is spelled is funny and a reference to a popular online series. Most people would like it--Piemanmoo 19:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

No. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 19:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Arrow and Grenade are rather boring true, but it's the closest to official names we have for them, due to their description in their respective taunts. (Kill and enemy with an arrow, etc.) I nominate Scotch Tap to replace Decapitation though. Not sure about the arrow'd thing. I did enjoy HSR, but that reference is a good few years old at least. I quite like Home run for the Sandman taunt, I went with bonk originally because of the kill icon. --Wilsonator 12:55, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Ya I realize that the names are used in the description, but they're used as common nouns, and even beyond their boringness, their use in this instance--especially for Grenade (which has other well-established meanings in TF2)--is less clear than other words would be. So far, people seem to like Home run, so unless people decide on a different name (Grand slam might be good?), I'll edit that one soon. The one that seems to have the least agreement, Grenade, is also the one that most needs a name change for consistency and clarity's sake, so we really should pick something.

Unfortunately for the Chinese Tsun Zu reference, both Kamikaze and Banzai are Japanese, but could still be used, as could Martyr; any of them would be better than Grenade, which is already used both by the Grenade launcher and by Unused content from TFC. Arrow is obviously less important, but I'd still rather see something like Skewer or even something as plain (but more accurate) as Arrow stab (the taunt is an action, not an object). ~G-Mang (T|C) 05:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I say Skewer, Home run and Kamikaze be implement. We can get PilkBOT to do all the link fixing. What do you guys think? -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 22:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I nominate Scotch tap to replace decapitation. Oh, and if we wanted to make the grenade more distinct, we could call it a frag grenade. There's a scrapped weapon too but this is the only one in the game proper. --Wilsonator 14:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't mind the Decapitation name either way. I don't really like the Frag grenade name as much as Kamikaze or Martyr though. Home run is fine, but I'm starting to like Grand slam a bit more... what do you guys think about that? ~G-Mang (T|C) 05:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, i think the 'Bonk!' taunt should be 'home (fricking) run', 'Beat it' or 'Smack Chop' (reference to vince) Ollyeng 06:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... maybe I'm a bit out of place here, but... "Skewer"? I really hope that's temporary. Just sayin'. TheNeotank 02:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Weapon templates are borked?

Now I'm no expert, but the weapon templates definitely look broken to me. Am I the only one seeing this, because I haven't seen anyone else comment on it. - Keybored6522 04:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. The fix should propagate soon. :) surlyanduncouth _(talk) 09:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

What was wrong? -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 12:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Just that error where edits you submitted get converted to their %hex equivalent. surlyanduncouth _(talk) 12:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Was that me? Sorreh. I have no idea why it happens. It seems to occur after the word 'name' and that gets lowercased. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 12:38, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

1,250 Articles

Milestone? Pilk _(talk) 08:20, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

For sure. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 08:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Mainpage

The lower left corner of all the boxes isn't rounded like the others. Is this intentional/can someone with the ability fix this? Shine 19:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

On my screen all four corners are rounded. Pilk _(talk) 20:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Addition of custom content

So now we have this Fancy vs. Nasty page, which is looking very nice, what do you think we should do? I was thinking about adding worthy packs of content or whatnot. But what about unofficial update like info pages? Or example that unofficial Engineer update was quite interesting. What's your stance of this? Adding the Unofficial Engineer update and Royzo's Island update? -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 14:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

The Guard Dog, if only to shutup those who believe it's real. Shine 15:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Does this mean the Octopus gun and sciences are coming back? -- En Ex 16:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

 Neutral There would need to be strong notability guidelines implemented. Pilk _(talk) 16:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I personally believe that we should add a fan/custom content namespace, with notability guidelines so not everyone makes 50 articles about their weapon unlock ideas. MK 04:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a big gripe with the custom pages (as long as they're clear that they're not official), but dedicating front page space to it seems excessive to me. It's already on the blog, and it's not relevant enough to warrant its own image space on the main page. ~G-Mang (T|C) 22:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with that. -- En Ex 22:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I would like that too. We should aslo include fake updates, famous or not and give credit to the makers. --Hobbes348 20:37, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Page on Bonus Points

We need to start an article on all the ways to get bonus points.

Any information like that can be put on the Points page. Also, please sign your comments with two dashes followed by four tildes. -- En Ex 05:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Drops in TF2

Hi. My name is kristian and i really need some help with the drops in TF2, yesterday i played like 2hours on the same server and i had the topscore on the server and i didnt get any drops, and then i joined another server and played for a while on that server too and i still didnt get anything. I havent got anything for like a week, and even when i do achievement it dont show that i have completed it like i did it wrong, i was doing a achievement where you had to shoot a rocket jumping soldier, and i shot a rocket jumping soldier and nothing happended =( can someone help me please? =D Thanks for your help, sorry for my bad english :S

Welcome to the Wiki!. The drop system is a little complicated but I'll try to sum it up.

To start with, there is a limit each week on how many items can drop, it's about 6 or 7.

Every time you get an item, the system randomly determines the time (somewhere between 5 minutes to 3 hours) before your next drop.

As for the achievement, make sure you understand the achievements correctly, what is the name of the one you are attempting?

See the Item drop system and Achievements pagea for more information! Cheers! -Firestorm2 18:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Another note: your performance in a game has no effect on drops you may recieve -Firestorm2 18:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Also note, Achievements will not be earned if the server has sv_cheats set to 1. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 18:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I dont know what the achievement is called on English :S i only know what its called on danish, its a sniper achievement where you has to shoot a rocket jumping demoman or rocket jumping solder on danish its called "raket mobber"

It's "Jumper Stumper" and you have to kill them. Please end any comments you have on talk pages with ~~~~ to sign your name, and start each comment with colons to tab your comment over so that it is easier to read. If you reply to this comment, use two. See the comments above yours to see how it is done. Thanks! -Firestorm2 18:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Kristian Thanks i also killed the guy, i just think that its a problem with my internet

Need help about dead ringer clock and big kill

Hey its Kristian again, i was wondering about it was possiable to get dead ringer again as a drop, because i made mine to a tribalmans or what its called, and i regret that so i was wondering about it was possiable to get it as a drop or do i has to reinstall TF2 to get it again? I was also wondering about how do you get the gun "big kill"?

Thanks for your help :) -- Krill 15:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The Dead Ringer drops as regularly as any other item. This is one of the downsides of the drop system, you can spend a long time and never get that one item that you need. In the future, I would only recommend crafting doubles that you have, as you may not get that item back for a while. As for the Big Kill, this was a promotional weapon given to anyone who bought Sam & Max at a certain time and can no longer be acquired. -Firestorm2 15:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks for your help =) -- Krill 18:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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Spelling error on Main Page

Just noticed this.

Glossery of Player Terms -> Glossary of Player Terms

Thought I'd let you know :)

Brandon 11:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)