Talk:Backstab
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Sapping / Backstabbing
- "A useful technique that can be employed by a skilled spy is to backstab an engineer and then immediately sap their sentry gun before it is able to kill the spy. However this technique only works when the sentry gun is facing in the other direction."
I've revised this. Backstabbing before sapping is very poor form, since the Spy loses his disguise at the start of the backstab animation. This gives a brief window for the sentry to turn around and shoot you before you can land the backstab and sap the sentry successfully.
- Keep in mind that if you're running while you backstab you do the normal attack animation, so if you walk up you can do it more quickly and with less risk to your life.
Edit: As of the Febuary 24,2009 patch doing this is no longer nessessary, the long backstab animation has become quicker. Therefore making stabbing then sapping a more valid tactic when no other enemies are present.TheFragleader 10:05, 23 May 2009
- Remember that a sapped sentry cannot fire. It's a much better idea to sap the sentry first, thereby distracting the Engineer and forcing him to move in to remove the sapper (turning his back to you) and giving you an opportunity to backstab him. -beep 13:38, 6 April 2008 (CDT)
- However, most engineers will also keep their back to a wall or jump on top of their sentry while removing the sapper, and only the most inexperienced engineers will be backstabbed in this situation. Unless you are dealing with a very experienced spy, which is very rare. It only takes a little practice to be able to stab then sap. Sarda 05:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Facestab
its says it was fixed in a October 25 patch, but it was also fixed in the February 19 patch; here's the notes, http://www.tf2wiki.net/wiki/February_19%2C_2008_Patch The Unbeholden 21:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps we can add the technical details of the Facestab fix. Supposedly there an explanation as to what the fix did in order to solve the facestab, a few people like myself have been wondering this. The Unbeholden 23:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Backstab Icon
We should get the Backstab icon that shows up in the upper right screen and add the image to this article, if anyone knows how to get it please do so. The Unbeholden 21:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Backstab icon: http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Image:Backstab.png
- At some point, we should update that image, as it now has the crit hit hue when backstabbing... at least in the PC version. --Powerlord 00:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Here are step-by-step videos of spy help
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d87QCn_cafI 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHwvTa2F6c 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AcdVsZSlbc
These are just few tips....
Backstab history
I think that this page needs a section about the history of the backstab, since it has been a whole lotta fixes with it since the release of the game. Videos would be a great thing to it too. I could make this segment myself, but don't have time atm so I guess I would just throw it out there.
