Talk:Engineer

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For the character bio

I've re-instated the short bio on the Engineer and corrected one section. I plan to look through the other classes which have "Meet the Team" videos as well.

I have seen the discussion elsewhere on TF2Wiki where a deletionist wanted to wipe all the bios, but instead came to a compromise where only canon information would remain (as written by Valve). If you guys are going to do that, you should actually look up the videos on Valve's own site before rifling through the bios!

http://storefront.steampowered.com/v2/index.php?area=game&AppId=987&cc=US

With rumors that the Scout, Sniper, or Pyro will be getting videos soon, I think this becomes more important to follow. ThInTrM 22:31, 27 February 2008 (CST)

That's a fair enough comment, however as you say, the decision was not to remove all the items in the Bios. Item's that do have sources should be kept; it was only the subjective item's that should have been removed. I'm not sure why the Info: sections were removed but thanks for putting them back. I believe the "deletionist" you refer to was myself, although I never said "wipe all the bios"; I only said remove the "insupportable and pointless details". We had a lengthy discussion about it on the Classes talk page if you want to check. I'd also like to point out that there are no 'you guys', the TF2 Wiki is a community based project and everyone is entitled to contribute or object to suggestions (or throw out new ideas for that matter). --Aurora 10:47, 28 February 2008 (CST)

Umm yeah. That was me who deleted all the bios. Sorry about that. I thought it was just some random editor who made it off the top of his head. But thanks for putting the source to them. They were well written and I'm glad to see that they returned.--CountDOODOO 11:47, 28 February 2008 (CST)

I'm readding the mottos. They are canon, and are from Trailer 2. --Southpaw018 22:50, 28 February 2008 (CST)

Build Times

I don't know how to do templates, but here is some data on the engineer I figured out:

BUILD TIMES:

Dispenser, teleport entrance and exit: 20 seconds
Sentry: 10 seconds
When someone uses a teleporter, recharge time until next person can use it: 10 seconds

If you keep banging the wrench on the structures, they build exactly twice as fast, and no metal is consumed for doing it.

Ratty 12:47, 1 October 2007 (CST)

Here's some SG placement pics for Dustbowl...not quite sure how/where we can use them.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/2iu6-1c-png.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/2iu6-1d-png.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/2iu6-1e-png.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/2iu6-1f-png.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/2iu6-1g-png.html
(source) --DNA.styx 14:50, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

Advanced Strategy Section

Added an advanced strategy section. Feel free to move the information around/split it off into it's own page.

All of the information is written by me, and this is the second advanced section I've done so far (Soldier being the first).

Feel free to leave me a comment here, or on my talk page. --WanderingFox 10:28, 15 November 2007 (CST)

We shouldn't suggest that people demolish sapped buildings just to deny a spy a point. Not only is taking away a point that someone else earned an incredibly lame thing to do, but I've seen morons blow up their sapped guns as I was repairing it. It's bad teamwork. --Syd Midnight 14:52, 29 December 2007 (CST)

Thats fair comment and I agree, it was added in on the last edit by Nanosheep at 05:02, 27 December 2007. --Aurora 18:27, 29 December 2007 (CST)

Not entirely. Teleporter entrances which are likely out of reach from any nearby engineers (since they're more focused on repairing the sentries and dispensers elsewhere) have a high likelihood of death when sapped. Obviously the demolition of more important structures such as the dispenser and sentry should be considered beforehand. This makes more sense when there is only one engineer on the team. --Nanosheep 07:45, 2 January 2008 (GMT)

Move the Advanced Strategy?

This article has an advanced strategy section in it, see open review on the soldier discussion pages

I say move this one as well. In my opinion, each class article should just be a basic overview of that class. Having it go into too much depth may make it look unorganized. They should all be easy reads and if you want to know more about them, then they should click on an advanced strategy page. It's obvious that this Advanced Strategy page will get larger and larger as time goes on. More and more strategies will be found and I don't want to see this overview get too big. So, I say move it. --CountDOODOO 15:00, 29 November 2007 (CST)

Moving to Engineer strategy. -- WanderingFox 09:43, 6 December 2007 (CST)

destroying sapped buildings

Has the ability to destroy sapped building been removed in a recent patch ?--mark"d"davis 04:14, 3 March 2008 (CST)

Not as far as I've seen.--Raskolnikov 11:13, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

It hasn't, but the Spy's damage towards the sapped building has been lowered.--DJTricky 12:41, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

Moving order of two engineer tactics

I got tired of not seeing engineers contribute and help others, so I moved two tactics up.--Raskolnikov 11:12, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

The Engineer Quote

You know how in most of the other class pages we have a little class quote with a link to the voice file? Well, I've been working on trying to get the same one for the Engineer quote, but it's just too long. Our wiki has a file upload max. limit set at 2MB. This thing is 2.7MB. So unless we get a new quote, we'll just have to leave it like that (without the direct link to the voice over). I've uploaded it to 4Share. You guys can download it THERE and edit it with whatever program if you want. I've tried trimming it but it's still too large. What should we do? Get a New quote or Can one of you trim it down expertly?--Eh_Leck_Trick 00:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorted. We really didn't need that much. Smashman 01:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Metal

It's pretty vague about what you can use to get metal. While it's VAGUELY implied that ammo boxes and cabinets give metal, it's not stated anywhere. While anyone who has played engie for a fair amount of time believes this to be common knowledge, this should be reflected somewhere in the article. Tons of new engies have no idea where to get easy metal, until they ask (what usually happens) or accidentally find out.

Thanks in advance.

Like http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Metal ?? --mark"d"davis 13:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

LaTeX used to generate "Favorite Equation"

LaTeX (what is almost certainly used for the paper the engie's favorite equation was taken from) makes very pretty equations, and some installations of mediawiki can use it. Maybe we should use that instead of an image (that is, a very small and hard to read image?)

This is the LaTeX code for his equation:

\sum_{i = 1}^L
\left[ c_i k_s max \left(
f_s \left( \hat{v} \cdot \hat{r_i} \right)^{k_{spec}},
f_r k_r \left( \hat{v} \cdot \hat{r_i} \right)^{k_{rim}}
\right) \right]

It seems this wiki has no LaTeX fomatting enabled (or available) so this is I guess here for reference.

No, it's a mediawiki plug-in that's not installed on here. --urora (talk | contribs) 10:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Speculation about Unlocks

"The Engineer update is assumed to be developed in 2010. This is presumably due to the only class to have no unique weapons (apart from his buildings) for Valve to work on. Perhaps this update will concern the buildings instead of his direct weaponry."

I've removed this from the Trivia section of the article because I don't believe speculation belongs on official articles. Also since it's 2010 now, the part about assuming it's going to happen in 2010 isn't necessary. If anyone thinks this removal was out of line, I will not undo an undo of my edit. -KazooieBanjo 19:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Engie created crafting?

Remember the crafting page on the WAR! Update, with the Engineer on the front page of the newspaper? So I was thinking. Who "created" crafting in the TF2 World? The Engineer or Saxton Hale? OluapPlayer 19:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Ya'll Might Wanna Have a Gander at This...

Now it's mah turn. - Engineer Update: Coming Soon!

Best 26 seconds of my life. I cannot express how enormously stoked I am right now! -- MistahFixIt 01:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Saw, and excited indeed. --Wilsonator 01:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Robot arms! Pilk _(talk) 01:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Well Valve, being the Grade-A trolls they are, have snuck in a laser pointer sentry icon in the new batch of kill icons.[1] --Brother Grawmad 03:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Whats under the glove?

In the engineer update video we see a robotic arm in blue prints in the back. Could THIS be whats under the engenieers glove? TF2WIKIDUDE 01:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It could be. It might be a while before we find out. — Pilk _(talk) 02:11, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

OH Damn lucky guess on that XD TF2WIKIDUDE 07:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Engies new shotty

i knew it! i knew he would get a new shotty! i also think it might have the ability to shoot sappers off of his equipment so he doesn't need his wrench also it will have better range do to the scope. What do u think? TF2WIKIDUDE 00:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing it allows you manual control of sentries. Keyonte0 10:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's like a Direct Hit version of the shotgun. More damage, but less spread.

PredatorDuck 12:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

It's evidently not a scope. -- Smashman... _{(t • s • b)} 12:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I had a theory, but it would depend on the Engineer getting an unlockable mobile building of some kind, in addition to the shotgun. Might post it up on a subpage of my Userpage if I can find where I wrote it down. Suffice to say, it was similar to Keyonte's theory. -- MistahFixIt 15:21, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The addition of antennae to the "Scope" implies something being remote controlled. Should be fun to see what. I was thinking a Sentry that doesn't shoot until you "paint" targets, then it has nearly infinite range. -Firestorm2 15:55, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

If you look on the scope, there's nothing on the other end and the front has something camera looking on it. Whatever it is, it has something to do with the new sentry lazor kill icon. Keyonte0 17:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

New Engie Quotes Coming out With the Update

I was just wondering if there has been any news if Engineer would get some new quotes along with his update. As he is one of the three classes yet to get new lines.--Ironmngr 15:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Every single class updated besides the Pyro and Medic have introduced new voice lines. The Medic and Pyro didn't because they were the first two and it wasn't part of major updates then. No reason to suspect that the Engineer won't right now. -- Pilk _(talk) 15:44, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

new Domination lines for the Engie but the lines are not on the wiki yet just look it up on Youtube.TF2WIKIDUDE 23:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)