User talk:Nos/Archive 1

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  • Probably the best place to leave me messages or discuss things about the site in general that you would like to see changed/edited.


  • I have a script I would like to share but am not experienced in editing large complex wiki documents, therefore I've just deposited it here and hopefully you can move it to where it belongs :)
    This script is intended for users who use microphone in game at the same time as speakers. This script momentarily mutes the game while the microphone button is pressed, meaning the other players on the server don't have to hear the echo and feedback generated. Works fine, doesn't cause any problems

alias "+mute" "volume 0; +voicerecord"
alias "-mute" "-voicerecord; volume 1"
bind "MICROPHONE-BUTTON" +mute

Thanks for your contribution. We always welcome more people. A couple things. Its best to "sign" any comments you leave on Talk/Discussion pages. Makes it easier to know who you're talking to. You can see how to sign your comment by looking at the other comments on the page. Just copy and paste someone else's, then make the appropriate adjustments. I'll add your script to the appropriate place, but in the future, try adding it yourself to the appropriate page. As long as it doesn't completely screw up the page, don't worry about making it perfect. The joy of a wiki is that other people can come along and help with any minor formatting issues. Nos 16:05, 3 December 2007 (CST)
  • Hi, I started a server, and used a stopwatch to time the engineer build times. I put the data on the engineer talk page, because I don't know how to muck with templates to make it look right. It might be a bit cluttered if it goes in the "information" section, but that is subjective. Ratty 12:53, 1 October 2007 (CST)
    • I would say go ahead and put on there wherever you feel its appropriate. It wouldn't really fit on the template since its only for the one class that its important. If others disagree, they can always move it or edit the information. In any case, good work, and thanks for helping out. Nos 13:08, 1 October 2007 (CST)


  • Nos, just descending on your Talk to say 'hi.' I've been editing various things and I figured I should actually greet you at some point =P. I'll be depending on you guys to pick good servers when I piggyback on you through the Steam friendlist. I might also try and put my mapping hat on- it's been a while. Great idea, setting up this wiki. I hope it goes far. -Puddington 15:29, 4 October 2007 (CST)
    • Glad to have you aboard. I was actually quite surprised when I did some searching and couldn't find a wiki for TF2. Forums are nice and all, but I've found wiki's to be a great source of information, and can often reduce the redundancy found in a lot of online forums. I'd love to see some user maps starting to spring up, though I imagine Valve has plans to release more in the near future, maybe even on the 10th when TF2 leaves beta. Nos 15:55, 4 October 2007 (CST)


  • hiya, pineapple here, just let me know if you want any awesome screenshots of anything, I love doing it! ;) Thepineapplehead 05:38, 17 November 2007 (CST)
    • Glad to have you aboard. If you look around, I'm sure you'll see some pages that could use screenshots, or some that could be improved. Nos 9:45, 21 November 2007 (CST)
  • Any chance we can get the ads move back down to the bottom of the page. They're really annoying at the top. -- WanderingFox 08:33, 21 November 2007 (CST)
    • I moved them back... just playing around with their positioning a little. Nos 9:45, 21 November 2007 (CST)


  • Hi Nos, just introducing myself and also can you look at the Scripting_Faq section, I presume you will want a different layout than what has been created, will leave this up to you. Update - I've changed the layout slightly, sorry couldn't resist :P -- Aurora 17:10, 21 November 2007 (BST)
    • Yeah, we could probably tweak it a bit, but I'm sure that will happen as it grows. Nos 9:45, 21 November 2007 (CST)
  • Nos, I can't seem to get the parser functions to work. Is this extension something you have to enable server side? (Sorry still an amateur at wiki editing). Also while I have your attention, it seems we might have to look at the css styles and either add or change some as editors (myself included) are having to resort to hardcoding the css styles rather than use classes. -- Aurora 13:36, 24 November 2007 (CST)
    • The parser? Not sure what you mean. If you have css you'd like added, let me know and I can put them in. Nos 21:45, 25 November 2007 (CST)
    • Sorry, should have given more info :$ By the parser functions I mean the additional ParserFunctions extensions, see MetaWiki:ParserFunctions and MetaWiki:ParserFunctions#Installation. They allow the use of expression functions like #if: #ifexists #switch: #time: (adding to the standard functions e.g. #int: #lc: #numberofarticles:). These would be useful for checking data coming into templates.
    • I'm creating some mockups for you to choose the CSS styling you want, will post you them soon. -- Aurora 20:22, 26 November 2007 (CST)
      • I could probably lend a hand with CSSifying it if you want, I've been working on a personal CSS userstyle yesterday: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/thepineapplehead/tf2/tf2wiki_wip2.jpg Thepineapplehead 16:42, 27 November 2007 (CST)
      • I like bit's of that myself and would probably use something similar on my own pages. However this is a Wiki and there's a certain 'styling' to wiki pages. Having said that, it's not my choice, I just try and stick to standard styles. I think we probably do need to sit down and have a group chat at some point about styling and standardizing it. Nos is the guy in charge though and it should be his decision, content is our job as editors, visual stylistics and admin stuff his. Let's see what he has to say. -- Aurora 18:25, 27 November 2007 (CST)
      • As far as I'm concerned, I'm just that guy that implements stuff you guys want, if there's a general consensus as to styling sheets, I'm more than happy to accomodate the group. Oh, and I'm going to try and get to that parser today, though no guarantees... my life and job are hectic right now. -- Nos 08:00, 28 November 2007 (CST)
      • Okay, I figured I've got 5 minutes now and that's all it should take, so its done. ParserFunctions is installed and as far as I can tell, its working. Let me know if there are issues.-- Nos 08:05, 28 November 2007 (CST)
Thanks Nos, your a star, this should make templates a bit more flexible --Aurora 17:39, 28 November 2007 (CST)
Great site Nos many thanks have you thought about setting up a spray for us to upload when playing ?? nb look me up markdeadlydavis i need 7 friends for a match and an achievement--markdeadlydavis 06:14, 29 November 2007 (CST)


  • Preformatted text is only using one line if indenting is used as well. that is to say using < pre > tags doesn't work for text that spans multiple lines.

Example:

This works fine
This

Doesn't Work

Fine
This is just weird

If you can look into it, that'd be great :P -- WanderingFox 09:00, 29 November 2007 (CST)

Aurora found a fix that works ^_^ Disregard. -- WanderingFox 10:25, 29 November 2007 (CST)

Changes discussions

Nos, when you get chance could you give your opinion on Talk:Soldier#Move_the_Advanced_Strategy.3F. Also I've added a template that's quite useful so you don't have to trawl through all the changes to find out important discussions ongoing, as your kinda busy at the moment. Any pages that have discussions on major changes to the layout of the wiki are being marked for open review, have a look at Category:Articles marked for open review to find them. --Aurora 14:56, 29 November 2007 (CST)

Need some CSS/Javascript added

In order to get collapsible boxes (for use with userboxes and in general), some javascript and css needs to be added to all of the pages.

I've isolated everything you need (I hope >_<) and put it here for the time being.

In case I missed anything, it was gleaned from Wikipedia's implementation of the same system. Their source files can be found here (css) and here (javascript). The article is here. Would be nifty if this could get implemented when you get some time to fiddle with it.

While your at it can you look at defining some site-wide color schemes for us to use to standardize the 'feel'. I'm specifically talking about the stuff like the main page which uses the orange/black type colors which are currently user specified in the page, rather than using a css style name. Have a look at Manual:Skin_configuration#Site-Wide_CSS and the MediaWiki:Common.css definitions they use (like mainpage_hubbox, #mainpage_mwtitle, etc. in the MAIN PAGE STYLING section). This is really needed because consitancy through pages is getting a bit messy, as well as cluttering content with style definitions. I know your busy and I would do them myself but the MediaWiki:Common.css page is locked to administrators (and damn right too! :p). Enabling user styles would be cool too, but far, far less important than sorting some common css definitions. --Aurora 06:13, 30 November 2007 (CST)
And here I thought I could just sit back and do nothing all the time :). I can add the stuff you requested, but my thought would be to give a few of the more active editors rights to change the Common.cs/Common.js pages (create a group and set 'editinterface' to true for that group, and add a few of you. Any thoughts who should be in that group? I was thinking Aurora, WanderingFox for sure, there's probably others as well, but I'm too lazy to try and decide who should be allowed to. --Nos 11:11, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Fine by me, sure beats bugging you every few hours :P -- WanderingFox 11:14, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Not that I mind making these changes at all, I just don't think all of you guys should have to wait for me to show up and make changes like these. Changes that a few of the best contributors could certainly be trusted to make by themselves. Especially if I happen to be gone for an extended period of time, like a vacation to Mexico in a week or so :) --Nos 11:32, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Like I said above, I don't mind at all ^_^ -- WanderingFox 11:35, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Okay, WanderingFox and Aurora now have editinterface permissions. If anyone wants to be added, or wants to suggest someone else be added to the group, let me know. --Nos 11:36, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Err...ok, I was hoping you would make a decision on the color scheme to use so I didn't have to :P If your happy with what's currently being used (i.e. the orange headers), I will base common scheme round this and layout the css (but off site, until I'm happy with them). Somethings definitely need changing (links in headers being one) because of color clashes. I'll get to it and maybe create a mock up page on my site for you to look at before approving. --Aurora 11:52, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Heh, you caught me trying to avoid making that decision. You and WanderingFox seem to be the two most who are most interested in the CSS and such, which is great. I like the idea of trying stuff out offsite first, but don't wait for my "approval". Its a wiki, and while the layout should be a bit more protected than regular pages, you are certainly free to adjust the css as you see fit. I'm sure between the two of you we'll end up with a great site. --Nos 12:31, 30 November 2007 (CST)
Speaking of great sites. I just got collapsable tables working. Check out my user page. I'll be writing a doc shortly (it's incredibly easy to use). -- WanderingFox 12:36, 30 November 2007 (CST)

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